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flight · 05-10-2008, 07:55 PM

is just trying to make more money by extending some of these series' in the playoffs...

its ridiculous by how much the home team gets the advantage when they go and play at their house...

Ex.) pistons go to orlando and are up 2-1... orlando are blowing them out in the beginning like crazy... some is partially because of billups

game 4 - pistons win without billups... ^^ thats why i said partially...

magic won cuz of REFS...

Ex.2) cavaliers are down 2 games against Celtics...
they are playing in cleveland right now and they have gotten to a crazy lead...

that is ridiculous .... some of those calls REFS are just making them without even thinking twice about them... they have called so many horrible calls throughout every game...

this is getting ridiculous...

im starting to wonder if it was really David Stern betting on basketball like Pete Rose bet on baseball... and then Stern ended up blaming it on Tim Donaghy one of the NBA officials...

if you ask anybody the crowd does not affect the outcome of the game... the noise does not affect the players game either... it is only the REFS... and who pays the REFS - David Stern the puppeteer !!

Kid Steez · 05-10-2008, 07:58 PM

yo son shut the fuk up. everytime the cavs win a game dumb asses like you accuse the refs for being the result why we win. the cavs are currently taking it to the celtics. i dont wanna hear none of that dave stern bs.

flight · 05-10-2008, 08:20 PM

im talking about all the playoff games for this year in general...

since i cant remember most of the calls... and im watching the game right now between the CAVS and CELTICS...

your gonna tell me when lebron went up to dunk with his left hand on garnett and pope it was a foul ?? of course it wasnt and the REF called it...

Why didnt lebron open his mouth saying that was a horrible call ??

then he drove in and Pierce got the Charge ... then he opened his mouth and said that was a horrible call while his face was in disgust...

then we got delonte west just completely getting in front of garnett without even having any kind of position and plus he got there late (still moving and everything) and they called an offensive foul on garnett...

Horrible call !!

we got Stuckey from the pistons not even touching turkoglu when he drove in and made a layup and the REFS called stuckey for a foul...

another horrible call...

we got players flopping, complaining, whining and REFS making horrible calls...

while David Stern is chillin making money every second each series goes another game...

im not bashing any particular team or any particular player...

im saying REFs need to get their act together and i think its because of STERN...

so chill out KID STEEZ !!!

Kid Steez · 05-10-2008, 08:34 PM

oh well my bad lol. your right though

flight · 05-10-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid Steez

oh well my bad lol. your right though

its cool man...

out of all these years they have only gotten one REF that has gone down...
and we havent heard anything from him ever since...

we do know tim Donaghy REF'd some of the most important games in playoff history including that series between Lakers and Portland back in the day when Lakers came back from 14 pts down in the 4th quarter i believe...

then he REF'd the Suns vs. spurs series where suns clearly looked like the better team and all hell broke loose when suns players were ejected...

i do believe it is Stern calling all the shots... he has so much money - with money comes power...

who is to say he cant offer a REF to make a few calls here and there for a sum of money... no one is going to question his authority because he is the commissioner...

but this is only my opinion...

hurrican3 · 05-11-2008, 12:47 AM

cavs win had nothing to do with the refs .. they jumped out to a 25 point lead in the 1st half .. game was over before halftime

bosoxfan4eva · 05-12-2008, 12:51 PM

It has been going on for the past few years. Always some suspicious calls. Alot of superstar treatment has been going on too.

Exhibit A: YouTube - Phantom Foul 1

flight · 05-12-2008, 01:15 PM

i saw some of those videos...
some were fouls and others were not...

the jumper over terry was not a foul....
the foul they called on Dirk was a foul because he reached in with his left hand and wade just bought in and flopped and he got the call...

the lebron 3 pointer was not a foul... that was ridiculous... lol

BiteKrime · 05-12-2008, 01:35 PM

I agree the calls are bogus, yesterday watching the Lakers came I couldn't believe some of those calls.

flight · 05-12-2008, 01:43 PM

^^^

its like every game Stern has his pick of who he wants to win...
or he just wants to extend the series longer to bring in more money for himself...

the calls are getting out of hand... some of those REFs need to wear glasses !! lol

FlawlessVictory · 05-13-2008, 08:48 PM

No dominant teams this year outside of Boston and their core three is a collection of misfit, underachieving, choke artists so its understandable.

No dominant teams = few wins on the road.

If this **** was true, the Lakers wouldn't have swept the Nuggets in what was one of the higher rated first round series.

flight · Today, 12:24 AM

anybody see that push by gasol right now ??? lol
clearly a foul and no whistle since they are playing at the staples center...

that charging foul against him also where harpring was standing there and was not moving and no foul was called...

i know im a lakers - spurs fan but c'mon the REFs have to make those calls...

no wonder no team has won on the road...

gambino216 · Today, 12:32 AM

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I could care less who wins the Lakers v Jazz series, because I really do not like either team, but that game was called BIG TIME pro-Lakers...

I think if the refs had been even, Utah wins that game by 7+

flight · Today, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gambino216

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I could care less who wins the Lakers v Jazz series, because I really do not like either team, but that game was called BIG TIME pro-Lakers...

I think if the refs had been even, Utah wins that game by 7+

yeah jazz had that game won... they had all the momentum on their side... then those dumb calls by the REFs went in favor of the lakers and all the momentum shifted to the lakers...

the jazz just got thrown off after that...

FlawlessVictory · Today, 05:36 PM

the jazz push off on every single rebound especially during FTs. they bump on nearly every play.

they foul more than any team in the league and they put the pressure on the refs to make calls. when you do that, when you foul that much, you're going to get ****ty calls.

the refs have sucked all series and pro-Lakers claims are pretty hilarious considering how much **** the jazz have already gotten away with... especially in Utah.

flight · Today, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FlawlessVictory

the jazz push off on every single rebound especially during FTs. they bump on nearly every play.

they foul more than any team in the league and they put the pressure on the refs to make calls. when you do that, when you foul that much, you're going to get ****ty calls.

the refs have sucked all series and pro-Lakers claims are pretty hilarious considering how much **** the jazz have already gotten away with... especially in Utah.

im thinking stern just wants more money coming in because every series has been extended longer than what anyone anticipated... what ever happened to all those road wins and upsets and all those exciting series heartbreakers...

now the REFs want to call every game for the home team...

something is up again just like when tim donaghy got caught a few years ago...

FlawlessVictory · Today, 05:59 PM

lol thats BS bro. thats just how it goes when there isn't that much separating the two teams.

spurs vs suns went 5 games -- 2nd highest rated 1st round series.
lakers vs nuggets went 4 games -- 3rd highest rated 1st round series.

i think sometimes people forget that only three james separated the jazz and lakers in the regular season and the spurs and hornets had the same record if I remember correctly.

flight · Today, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FlawlessVictory

lol thats BS bro. thats just how it goes when there isn't that much separating the two teams.

spurs vs suns went 5 games -- 2nd highest rated 1st round series.
lakers vs nuggets went 4 games -- 3rd highest rated 1st round series.

i think sometimes people forget that only three james separated the jazz and lakers in the regular season and the spurs and hornets had the same record if I remember correctly.

three james ?? lebron james ?? hah... you meant games...

regular season doesnt really count...
playoffs do... this is where teams can make serious adjustments... its ridiculous how every home team in the SECOND ROUND has won and no team on the ROAD has won except for the pistons...
some of those calls are horrible...

FlawlessVictory · Today, 06:32 PM

when teams are that close, homecourt advantage can make all the difference in the world because benches are soooo much better at home than on the road. if you're starting line-up is 3 games better than another team, a dominant bench performance is all it takes to get a game.

thats why this didn't happen in the first round. the talent gap was there. this round, everyone is nearly in a dead heat.