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gush · 01-24-2008, 04:50 PM

what position u at bz

The Legend Killer · 01-24-2008, 04:52 PM

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ya but its still a bull**** remark tho if u can max alot more than a little skinny guy doin 100 pullups then u stronger then him its just alot harder for u to do em then the skinny guy

You think so? Go ahead and pull the skinniest kid a side at the gym and ask him to perform wide grip pulls and see how many he can do. I’m talking wide grip not close grip (a little wider then shoulder width apart) and palms facing away from the body not towards the body. You are basing your opinion on what exactly? Keep in mind I’ve trained hundreds of individuals over the years so I am basing my opinion on what I have seen with my clients.

BZDunk · 01-24-2008, 04:52 PM

well im goin into my senior year and i wanna play LB iv been playing DE since my sophmore season but i think im fast enough to play LB i run a 4.5 and strong enough well still tryin to get my squat to get better but ya my coach is always talkin like ima be on the dline but whatever hopefully i get to play LB

BZDunk · 01-24-2008, 04:55 PM

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You think so? Go ahead and pull the skinniest kid a side at the gym and ask him to perform wide grip pulls and see how many he can do. I’m talking wide grip not close grip (a little wider then shoulder width apart) and palms facing away from the body not towards the body. You are basing your opinion on what exactly? Keep in mind I’ve trained hundreds of individuals over the years so I am basing my opinion on what I have seen with my clients.

well i wasnt really meaning a skinny person my bad but a person that u no is alot more cut they will most likly be able to do alot more pullups then a guy thats much bigger but benches more this guys still stronger just not as much endurance

The Legend Killer · 01-24-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BZDunk

well i wasnt really meaning a skinny person my bad but a person that u no is alot more cut they will most likly be able to do alot more pullups then a guy thats much bigger but benches more this guys still stronger just not as much endurance

That’s not necessarily true. You would be very surprised if you pulled 10 guys to the side of all different shapes and sizes and have them perform wide grip pull-ups. This would prove your theory to be incorrect. You are judging a book by its cover.

BZDunk · 01-24-2008, 05:02 PM

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That’s not necessarily true. You would be very surprised if you pulled 10 guys to the side of all different shapes and sizes and have them perform wide grip pull-ups. This would prove your theory to be incorrect. You are judging a book by its cover.

damn whatever i cant really explain myself right but whoever knows what im talkin about plz help explain

WhatsReallyGood · 01-24-2008, 06:04 PM

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You can get a really effective workout just by using bands. I use these very religiously. Here is the website that they can be purchased from if you’re interested. They cost $100.00 for the set but they will last you forever and don’t take up any space.

http://www.tobands.com/

Terrell Owens uses these during the football season. You don’t need to lift weights to get in shape. I rarely ever use weights anymore but if I do lift weights I use Power Blocks and lift very lightly.

If using Bands isn’t your thing then you can always do Squats utilizing a Swiss Ball, Push-ups, King Dead Lifts, Pull-ups, Dips, Lunges, Reverse Pull-ups, and Hanging Leg Raise all using just your body weight.

Push-ups work your abs effectively because you are working your Core. Just remember to keep your belly button tucked in as though you are trying to make your belly button reach the back of your spine. Try doing Push-ups on a physio ball then tell me that it doesn’t work your abdominals.

I use weights cuz I have a free gym membership as part of being a student but I also have one of them workout bands at home and use it a lot, but just one i got from sports authority for cheap, it doesnt have the ankle bands or door strap or the different weights or all that high quality stuff or instruction manual and DVD...I was lookin at the TO bands and they look legit, are they a big enough upgrade over a regular workout band to make it worth dropping the 100 on em?

The Legend Killer · 01-24-2008, 06:07 PM

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I use weights cuz I have a free gym membership as part of being a student but I also have one of them workout bands at home and use it a lot, but just one i got from sports authority for cheap, it doesnt have the ankle bands or door strap or the different weights or all that high quality stuff or instruction manual and DVD...I was lookin at the TO bands and they look legit, are they a big enough upgrade over a regular workout band to make it worth dropping the 100 on em?

It's a major upgrade in so many ways and I promise you that you will not be disappointed.

WhatsReallyGood · 01-24-2008, 06:08 PM

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damn whatever i cant really explain myself right but whoever knows what im talkin about plz help explain

I dunno if this is what youre trying to say but in my own experience I am pretty small dont weigh much fast metabolism and short arms also but Im pretty cut up too. so when it comes to exercises like pullups, pushups anything else involving my own body weight i can outlift the **** outta people who are a lot stronger than me but also a lot bigger

BZDunk · 01-24-2008, 06:10 PM

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I dunno if this is what youre trying to say but in my own experience I am pretty small dont weigh much fast metabolism and short arms also but Im pretty cut up too. so when it comes to exercises like pullups, pushups anything else involving my own body weight i can outlift the **** outta people who are a lot stronger than me but also a lot bigger

exactly

stylish nupe · 01-24-2008, 06:28 PM

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u just sayin that cuz u cant bench alot its ok i guess lol

actually what he said is true and this is coming from someone with a 365 max and only weighs 160....and im not lying about my max either i have posted some previous workouts up here before and have gotten stronger since then

stylish nupe · 01-24-2008, 06:30 PM

the most important question that needs to be asked of any athlete isnt "how much can u bench", its "can you play"

gush · 01-24-2008, 06:41 PM

damn how tall are you nupe

The Legend Killer · 01-24-2008, 06:45 PM

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exactly

Yea you're right what do I know.

stylish nupe · 01-24-2008, 06:45 PM

5' 7 3/4"...im short

CHEECHREBORN · 01-24-2008, 07:58 PM

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15-20 reps are for muscular endurance. There is no such thing as toning.

i was going to say the same thing. people think that if they do things like that they can "spot reduce", when all they are really doing is building muscular endurance for the particular muscle they are working.

CHEECHREBORN · 01-24-2008, 08:07 PM

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That’s not necessarily true. You would be very surprised if you pulled 10 guys to the side of all different shapes and sizes and have them perform wide grip pull-ups. This would prove your theory to be incorrect. You are judging a book by its cover.

why are we comparing a primarily lat dominant exercise with a primarily chest dominant one?

unless we are doin it to show athleticism..? um i might have missed something though

The Legend Killer · 01-24-2008, 08:29 PM

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why are we comparing a primarily lat dominant exercise with a primarily chest dominant one?

unless we are doin it to show athleticism..? um i might have missed something though

Actually I'm comparing a Horizontal Push exercise with a Vertical Pull exercise.

My point is this every guy loves to workout his chest and arms. Very rarely will they put in the same amount of work for their back as they do their chest. Pushing weight away from your chest is fairly easy to do since your back is against the bench which is also giving you leverage. Do a pull-up and now you are lifting your own body weight.

The bottom line is this if you can't pull your self up over a pull up bar for at least 10-12 reps regardless of how much you weigh then you need to stop focusing on your chest and start focusing on your back. My other point is I can take a guy that can bench 385lbs and walk him over to the pull up bar and I bet he can't pull up his own body weight which is very sad really.

I can also have that same individual place his arms at his side and give him a pencil to hold very loosely on the tip of his fingers and watch what happens to the pencil. He will not hold it out straight it will be at a 45 degree angle pointing to the inside of his body rather then straight ahead. Why is this you ask because he focuses too much attention on his chest and doesn’t have a balanced routine which ultimately is a setup for injury.

While we are on the subject why do some of you still feel like you need to isolate muscle groups when working out? Example being I’m going to work chest and biceps on Monday, legs on Tuesday, back and triceps on Wednesday, abs on Thursday and what ever else you decide to do that day and shoulders on Friday. This is poor logic and doesn’t make any sense to me at all. Train your body based on movement patters not by muscle groups. You can’t isolate muscle groups sorry.

You guys can challenge me all you want about fitness but I promise you that I can put anyone in their place when it comes to fitness and nutrition with all the years of experience I have working with clients and professional athletes my resume speaks for itself not to mention I have help written articles for Men’s Health magazine and Men’s Fitness. I will also mention my friend has appeared on the cover of Men’s Health magazine over 16 times.

gush · 01-24-2008, 08:38 PM

so what do you suggest instead of upper body every day for myself LK?

(btw i have been getting positive results but i want your advise)

CHEECHREBORN · 01-24-2008, 08:42 PM

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