ReDsOxFaN266

OK ask akron boy this **** is like a DAMN GLITCH. its Full house strong HB SCREEN I THINK. how the HELL do you stop this? WOW i never had this much trouble screens before this **** IS ALWAYS OPEN. i put my whole D-Line on that side with flats and contains and they ignore it. there is ALWAYS only ONE GUY THERE and it is the guy im controlling and i have three fat ass linemen pancaking me. i believe there is also a guy crossing and one going deep on this play, so that aint the only thing you gotta account for

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gotta user it

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CapthowdyXLSL

True, i use this play very well. Hit me up sometime.

If you put the HB in motion to the screen side it's a wrap. Also with the chargers put gates in a jetpack streak, have the FB blocking inside. Hike and run for your life, one of the two are always open.

ReDsOxFaN266

yeah, its annoying as hell, how you stop it?

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CapthowdyXLSL

Pick your poison really.

I try to manually cover the screen with a hammer on gates. Of course I suck at picking screens and it usually hits my guy in the facemask. A shutdown corner usually does a good job of shutting it down though.

CapthowdyXLSL

I'm pretty sure that you have to zone the guys out though. It seems to be that if the guys that are in man always rush in, overshooting the coverage. Even in 5 wide and you set the RB WR to block I think his man will rush in. I could be wrong, but i'm not sure off the top of my head.

If everyone is in man out there then when they go to block, the defenders come flying through.

dukegotgame

your best bet is to sack them before they can get it off. if they get a good screen set up from full house with a good rb your ****ed.. thats the whole point of how we showed in the lab how to set up runs and passes from under center.. theres really no way to defend it well if someone is good at it. the only way to stop the runs, gets you killed by screens and vica versa.. and if someone knows up to set up blocking for actual passes and strafe catch its real tough.

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dukegotgame

yeah in general man defenders get picked off vs the hb screens.. the zone defenders back up though so your still in a bad situation if the player has any stick running the screen its not hard to avoid defenders with blockers in front of you.

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Tactix

the thing that makes that **** so deadly is that post corner route run by the receiver. imo ur best bet is to put 2 deep blues to the side of the field where the wr is running the post corner, then set up regular run D, then if u see the screen, click on to one of your defenders, strafe and get in the way of the ball.

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CapthowdyXLSL

I've never had much luck with that post corner route. Probably cause you have to throw on the run. It's the last route I look to, if at all to be honest. He does get open, but it's hard to get time to square up on it and deliver the ball.

ReDsOxFaN266

yeah this **** is ridiculous......

edit: and the guy i played was using Vince Young and doing it, so sacking him was almost out of the question. he would call hike and run back 30 yards

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KillBums

Audible down from a Shotty formation so that you've got a good WR running the post corner.

FB Dive + Rollout Screen + HB Sweep + Double Cross = $$$$

ReDsOxFaN266

this would be perfect with Dallas......if i need a new offense i'll know to go with this cheap ass stuff.......what PB is this stuff in anyways? R&G?

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KillBums

LMFAO. Cheap stuff? Typical excuse making. You must be used to it cuz you're a Colts fan. That scheme takes good stick to execute effectively. Bums will try and run it & get killed. But yeah it's in RNG and it's excellent with the Cowboys and the Chargers.

ReDsOxFaN266

i call it cheap mainly because of the screen, as people can back me up on, is nearly a glitch because of how much you have to dedicate to it.

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KillBums

It's another STRONG play that you have to manually cover. You're overthinking it.

Chumpzilla21

That's probably the best HB screen in the game. The defenders in man get crushed by the oline.

Chicago Seven

you talking about the one in full house wide (NYG pb) or the one in full house weak (RnG)?

the FH wide one is the nasty one, IMO.