Originally Posted by Red Rob

I think he is good, but you have to define elite. If you say top 10...id say no. top 15 or 20 maybe yeah. You can't say hes been carrying his team, after all he got them the 8 seed in the east. You mentioned T-Mac, but you know he could do atleast that. Look what the rockets have done in the WEST. Kobe without Pau or Bynum could be 500 in the east. Other players can say the same