TLK *Weight Lifting Question*

ZAN · 06-24-2009, 11:45 PM

I'm not embarassed to say this, but I can't rep 155 anymore. I went hard for the first time in forever two weeks ago, and killed my arms. Since then, I've taken it lightly and recovered. The other day I went back to rep 135 as a warmup and struggled through 7. I couldn't even get 155 off the rack after doing that warmup.

It's very frustrating considering that my highest bench max was around 230 in high school (I have a long frame at 6'2''...long arms)...

What is going on? Any help?

I've also gotten on the GNC's new Pro Peformance Nitric Oxide Supplement to help, and it's been tremendous.

Again, I'm not embarassed to ask about why I'm not capable of lifting what most high schoolers easily can right now. I honestly feel no discomfort at all. When I went for the first time in a longggg time the other day (2 weeks ago), I repped 155 about 10 times no problem. Now I'm struggling....

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CowboysFan07 · 06-25-2009, 12:39 AM

consistency is ur best friend. if u lift consistently then u will get stronger and the weights will go up. make sure ur r gettin enough protein and have a clean diet. and for a PW shake i highly suggest jack3d...its tuff

ELoveGTP · 06-25-2009, 01:02 PM

Consistency is definitely true you can't take two weeks off to recover. At most one week for each muscle group. Another thing, too many people get caught up in the hype of how much they can bench. Lifting isn't about being able to bench all this weight its about reps, plus theres so many more muscle groups beside chest. So focus on them as well. I advise you to do pull ups there clutch great for the back, which many people lack because their too focused on chest and abs and biceps.

sgibs7 · 06-25-2009, 04:36 PM

your starting to high thats why.

listen to your body...best way to rebuild your strength after a little hiadious (sp) is to use your own body weight for a week or 2 weeks.

meaning do soley pushups, pull ups, crunches...and if you cant do reverse pushups (which are really freaking hard) then use dumbells for a shoulder press.

im doing the jeff anderson miliarty workout. i bought the ebook and mondays and fridays are the only dyas i work my muscles and all i do is pushups, situps, pullups, and miliatry press.

tuesday wed friday I run. I have lost 10 lbs in 2 weeks. (its not all fat) but its still weight regardless of water or not. I feel great and the pumps I have been getting ARE UNFREAKING REAL. keep in mind theres no breaks inbetween the workout. Its a pyramid training. It works great.

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ZAN · 06-25-2009, 06:21 PM

It was a long hiatus. I didn't go to the weight room since HS football. Now I'm hitting it hard again. I wore my arms out. I still lifted arms when they straight up HURT. But I didn't do much. I still ran everyday (4 miles a day or so), and lifted legs every couple days...

But I just don't understand how my arms/chest feel fine, but when I get the weight up, I can't do more than 5 reps of 135 when I was doing sets of 7 with 155 two weeks ago....

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iceland55419 · 06-25-2009, 07:54 PM

Bench press is all techn**ue and frequency. Strength is not the most important thing. I say just work your way back up, it wont happen over night. If it makes you feel any better, i can only bench 155 once.

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ZAN · 06-25-2009, 08:48 PM

nah, like i said, im not embarassed about the weight...

i just am curious why i was repping 155 for 4 sets of 7 the other day and i cant rep 135 that many times today....

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sgibs7 · 06-25-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ZAN71789

nah, like i said, im not embarassed about the weight...

i just am curious why i was repping 155 for 4 sets of 7 the other day and i cant rep 135 that many times today....

maybe something with ur diet?

i notice if i dont eat right my strength goes wayyyyyyyy down

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Originally Posted by Hectik12

when brady got weapons in 07.. everyone saw what happened... the most explosive offense in nfl history

ZAN · 06-25-2009, 09:00 PM

Yeah, I have been eating light lately...maybe all this running (4 miles per day) is cutting my muscle mass as well...

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CowboysFan07 · 06-25-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZAN71789

Yeah, I have been eating light lately...maybe all this running (4 miles per day) is cutting my muscle mass as well...

yea that much cardio combined with eating light will make you lose muscle...best type of cardio for optimum fat loss and minimal muscle loss is HIIT

The Legend Killer · 06-25-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZAN71789

nah, like i said, im not embarassed about the weight...

i just am curious why i was repping 155 for 4 sets of 7 the other day and i cant rep 135 that many times today....

It's more than likely one of two things or a combination of both. Getting proper nutrition is crucial. How many calories are you taking in a day? Are you at a negative calorie deficit? Are you getting enough sleep at night? Are you taking power naps during the day?

ELoveGTP · 06-25-2009, 10:28 PM

Thats WAY too much cardio if your trying to gain muscle lol. Run that about every three or so days.

ELoveGTP · 06-25-2009, 10:28 PM

Oh and the best workout program on the planet is P90X. Whoever wants to argue this, we can, the proof is in the pudding.

The Legend Killer · 06-25-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ELoveGTP

Oh and the best workout program on the planet is P90X. Whoever wants to argue this, we can, the proof is in the pudding.

LOL P90X is not the best workout program on the planet in fact I wouldn't even put it in the top 10.

xAdjustx · 06-25-2009, 10:44 PM

I always wondered htis.. But is TLK a Muscle Built strong ass guy in real life

ZAN · 06-25-2009, 11:33 PM

Ok, here is a typical day for me, even in the summer.

7:00 AM - Wake Up, Breakfast (Yoplait yogurt with oats mixed in, glass OJ, egg scramblers *if I feel like them*)

Class from 8-noon

1:00 PM - 1 mile jog/slow run (warmup: i take GNC Pro Performance AMP N.O. Loaded prior to run)

2:00 PM to 3:00 PM - workout with buddy in his weight room (we lift chest/bi 2x week, tri/back 2x week, legs 2x week).....finished with 1 mile run

4:00 PM to 8:00 PM - go to work

8:30 PM - dinner (tonight it was a large salad with low fat amenities, 1 piece lasagna, water)

9:00 PM - 2 mile run

__________________________

So it's apparent I need something at lunch. I'd say I have lunch 3 or 4 times a week. I'm just discouraged with my weight if I'm eating during the day. I'm far from anorexic, but I try to not eat a lot. I only eat if I'm truly truly hungry, so to speak.

TLK, or anyone else that's certified, much help is appreciated. I weighed 240 at Christmas last year. I'm at 211 right now, and continuing to work towards more lean muscle and less fat. I was a 195-205 lb basketball forward and football tight end in high school, but I want to get under 190...so any help with weights/nutrition is appreciated.

I think tomorrow I'm going to go with:

Breakfast: Yogurt w/ oats, glass OJ

Lunch: Lunchmeat Roast beef w/ lettuce and honey dijon mustard, 1 serving fat free pringles, and water/milk

Dinner: Most likely whatever my father decides...

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Last edited by ZAN; 06-25-2009 at 11:36 PM

ATX-Jeff · 06-25-2009, 11:40 PM

im not sure if you forgot but your not eating enough dude no lunch you need some carbs dude way more then your intaking from what i see.

instead of just lunchmeat have some whole grain bread with that... also add in a snack through the day

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the kid 910 · 06-26-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ATX-Jeff

im not sure if you forgot but your not eating enough dude no lunch you need some carbs dude way more then your intaking from what i see.

instead of just lunchmeat have some whole grain bread with that... also add in a snack through the day

Not to mention that lunchmeat/processed meat tends to not have any good protein or etc, or atleast not most that i have seen.

ZAN · 06-26-2009, 12:07 AM

Haha, yeah, I meant lunchmeat sandwhich on whole grain. Typo....

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Br0kenB · 06-26-2009, 08:14 AM

What is your warm-up like? People underrate warming up SO much... it helps a lot. What do you do to warm-up? Chances are you can do a little better.

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06-24-2009, 11:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
ZAN Registered User All-American Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Williamsville, IL Posts: 1,519 XBL: Zac Neal	TLK Weight Lifting Question I'm not embarassed to say this, but I can't rep 155 anymore. I went hard for the first time in forever two weeks ago, and killed my arms. Since then, I've taken it lightly and recovered. The other day I went back to rep 135 as a warmup and struggled through 7. I couldn't even get 155 off the rack after doing that warmup. It's very frustrating considering that my highest bench max was around 230 in high school (I have a long frame at 6'2''...long arms)... What is going on? Any help? I've also gotten on the GNC's new Pro Peformance Nitric Oxide Supplement to help, and it's been tremendous. Again, I'm not embarassed to ask about why I'm not capable of lifting what most high schoolers easily can right now. I honestly feel no discomfort at all. When I went for the first time in a longggg time the other day (2 weeks ago), I repped 155 about 10 times no problem. Now I'm struggling.... All Time Regular Season EAFL Majors Career Record: 38-23 Season 41 AFC Runner-Up (Houston Texans)

06-25-2009, 12:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
CowboysFan07 Registered User All-American Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,233	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question consistency is ur best friend. if u lift consistently then u will get stronger and the weights will go up. make sure ur r gettin enough protein and have a clean diet. and for a PW shake i highly suggest jack3d...its tuff

06-25-2009, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
ELoveGTP Registered User Varsity Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 258 XBL: ELoveXxGSxX	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question Consistency is definitely true you can't take two weeks off to recover. At most one week for each muscle group. Another thing, too many people get caught up in the hype of how much they can bench. Lifting isn't about being able to bench all this weight its about reps, plus theres so many more muscle groups beside chest. So focus on them as well. I advise you to do pull ups there clutch great for the back, which many people lack because their too focused on chest and abs and biceps.

06-25-2009, 06:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
ZAN Registered User All-American Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Williamsville, IL Posts: 1,519 XBL: Zac Neal	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question It was a long hiatus. I didn't go to the weight room since HS football. Now I'm hitting it hard again. I wore my arms out. I still lifted arms when they straight up HURT. But I didn't do much. I still ran everyday (4 miles a day or so), and lifted legs every couple days... But I just don't understand how my arms/chest feel fine, but when I get the weight up, I can't do more than 5 reps of 135 when I was doing sets of 7 with 155 two weeks ago.... All Time Regular Season EAFL Majors Career Record: 38-23 Season 41 AFC Runner-Up (Houston Texans)

06-25-2009, 07:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
iceland55419 Registered User All-American Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,047 PSN: iceland55419	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question Bench press is all technue and frequency. Strength is not the most important thing. I say just work your way back up, it wont happen over night. If it makes you feel any better, i can only bench 155 once. EAFL PS3 Season XIV- Dolphins 0-0 TEAM GRYFFINDOR**

06-25-2009, 08:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
ZAN Registered User All-American Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Williamsville, IL Posts: 1,519 XBL: Zac Neal	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question nah, like i said, im not embarassed about the weight... i just am curious why i was repping 155 for 4 sets of 7 the other day and i cant rep 135 that many times today.... All Time Regular Season EAFL Majors Career Record: 38-23 Season 41 AFC Runner-Up (Houston Texans)

06-25-2009, 09:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
ZAN Registered User All-American Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Williamsville, IL Posts: 1,519 XBL: Zac Neal	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question Yeah, I have been eating light lately...maybe all this running (4 miles per day) is cutting my muscle mass as well... All Time Regular Season EAFL Majors Career Record: 38-23 Season 41 AFC Runner-Up (Houston Texans)

06-25-2009, 10:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
ELoveGTP Registered User Varsity Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 258 XBL: ELoveXxGSxX	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question Thats WAY too much cardio if your trying to gain muscle lol. Run that about every three or so days.

06-25-2009, 10:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
ELoveGTP Registered User Varsity Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 258 XBL: ELoveXxGSxX	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question Oh and the best workout program on the planet is P90X. Whoever wants to argue this, we can, the proof is in the pudding.

06-25-2009, 10:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
xAdjustx Registered User Pro Bowler Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit,Mi Posts: 6,365 XBL: i3oy Wonder PSN: xAdjustx	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question I always wondered htis.. But is TLK a Muscle Built strong ass guy in real life

06-25-2009, 11:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
ZAN Registered User All-American Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Williamsville, IL Posts: 1,519 XBL: Zac Neal	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question Ok, here is a typical day for me, even in the summer. 7:00 AM - Wake Up, Breakfast (Yoplait yogurt with oats mixed in, glass OJ, egg scramblers if I feel like them) Class from 8-noon 1:00 PM - 1 mile jog/slow run (warmup: i take GNC Pro Performance AMP N.O. Loaded prior to run) 2:00 PM to 3:00 PM - workout with buddy in his weight room (we lift chest/bi 2x week, tri/back 2x week, legs 2x week).....finished with 1 mile run 4:00 PM to 8:00 PM - go to work 8:30 PM - dinner (tonight it was a large salad with low fat amenities, 1 piece lasagna, water) 9:00 PM - 2 mile run __________________________ So it's apparent I need something at lunch. I'd say I have lunch 3 or 4 times a week. I'm just discouraged with my weight if I'm eating during the day. I'm far from anorexic, but I try to not eat a lot. I only eat if I'm truly truly hungry, so to speak. TLK, or anyone else that's certified, much help is appreciated. I weighed 240 at Christmas last year. I'm at 211 right now, and continuing to work towards more lean muscle and less fat. I was a 195-205 lb basketball forward and football tight end in high school, but I want to get under 190...so any help with weights/nutrition is appreciated. I think tomorrow I'm going to go with: Breakfast: Yogurt w/ oats, glass OJ Lunch: Lunchmeat Roast beef w/ lettuce and honey dijon mustard, 1 serving fat free pringles, and water/milk Dinner: Most likely whatever my father decides... All Time Regular Season EAFL Majors Career Record: 38-23 Season 41 AFC Runner-Up (Houston Texans) Last edited by ZAN; 06-25-2009 at 11:36 PM

06-25-2009, 11:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
ATX-Jeff Registered User Blue Chipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 541 PSN: atx-jeff	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question im not sure if you forgot but your not eating enough dude no lunch you need some carbs dude way more then your intaking from what i see. instead of just lunchmeat have some whole grain bread with that... also add in a snack through the day AIM-back2backsooners 1st EAFL SEASON BROWNS 7-9 1st RD Playoff Loss, Brian Roboskie MVP! TEXANS 7-7(season in progress)

06-26-2009, 12:07 AM	#19 (permalink)
ZAN Registered User All-American Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Williamsville, IL Posts: 1,519 XBL: Zac Neal	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question Haha, yeah, I meant lunchmeat sandwhich on whole grain. Typo.... All Time Regular Season EAFL Majors Career Record: 38-23 Season 41 AFC Runner-Up (Houston Texans)

06-26-2009, 08:14 AM	#20 (permalink)
Br0kenB Registered User Varsity Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Buffalo Posts: 498	Re: TLK Weight Lifting Question What is your warm-up like? People underrate warming up SO much... it helps a lot. What do you do to warm-up? Chances are you can do a little better. PS3 Online Tag - Br0kenB Spamming the Spin button since Madden '98!

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